AA DFW——>HND F Class
Apr 23, 2024, 10:25 am
#1
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AA DFW——>HND F Class
We are planning a trip to Japan and are curious as to the first class experience. We haven’t traveled internationally in years and realize that it’s not what it was.
The flight is DFW-HND , November 1 to 15th on a 787-9.
This will probably be our last international long haul trip, so we want to splurge.
We are also considering UA and JAL, but the cost is an extra 5k in price, we not sure if it’s worth the extra $$.
Thanks.
The flight is DFW-HND , November 1 to 15th on a 787-9.
This will probably be our last international long haul trip, so we want to splurge.
We are also considering UA and JAL, but the cost is an extra 5k in price, we not sure if it’s worth the extra $$.
Thanks.
Apr 23, 2024, 10:36 am
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If you fly JAL the sweet spot is using AA miles for a award redemption in F. Unfortunately getting a F seat has to be done far in advance or last minute with miles. You mention cost so I assume you are using cash. JAL F is far superior to UA. The only downside is the JAL cabin is very warm no matter what you tell the flight crew your cabin will be approximately 80 deg F. If you are lucky 75-78 deg F. but not cooler
Apr 23, 2024, 10:37 am
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We are planning a trip to Japan and are curious as to the first class experience. We haven’t traveled internationally in years and realize that it’s not what it was.
The flight is DFW-HND , November 1 to 15th on a 787-9.
This will probably be our last international long haul trip, so we want to splurge.
We are also considering UA and JAL, but the cost is an extra 5k in price, we not sure if it’s worth the extra $$.
Thanks.
The flight is DFW-HND , November 1 to 15th on a 787-9.
This will probably be our last international long haul trip, so we want to splurge.
We are also considering UA and JAL, but the cost is an extra 5k in price, we not sure if it’s worth the extra $$.
Thanks.
Apr 23, 2024, 10:52 am
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As JJeffrey mentioned, sounds like you may be mixing class of services.
If 5K is the difference between AA J and JL F, this is your last international trip and you want to splurge, I'd take JL F without hesitation.
If 5k is the difference between AA J and JL J, I'd personally stick with AA and spend the 5k in Japan. AA isn't as good as JL, but I don't think it's 5k worse.
I wouldn't consider the UA option...I would not pay 5k to fly UA over AA, or prefer UA over JL at the same price.
If 5K is the difference between AA J and JL F, this is your last international trip and you want to splurge, I'd take JL F without hesitation.
If 5k is the difference between AA J and JL J, I'd personally stick with AA and spend the 5k in Japan. AA isn't as good as JL, but I don't think it's 5k worse.
I wouldn't consider the UA option...I would not pay 5k to fly UA over AA, or prefer UA over JL at the same price.
Apr 23, 2024, 11:19 am
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As JJeffrey mentioned, sounds like you may be mixing class of services.
If 5K is the difference between AA J and JL F, this is your last international trip and you want to splurge, I'd take JL F without hesitation.
If 5k is the difference between AA J and JL J, I'd personally stick with AA and spend the 5k in Japan. AA isn't as good as JL, but I don't think it's 5k worse.
I wouldn't consider the UA option...I would not pay 5k to fly UA over AA, or prefer UA over JL at the same price.
If 5K is the difference between AA J and JL F, this is your last international trip and you want to splurge, I'd take JL F without hesitation.
If 5k is the difference between AA J and JL J, I'd personally stick with AA and spend the 5k in Japan. AA isn't as good as JL, but I don't think it's 5k worse.
I wouldn't consider the UA option...I would not pay 5k to fly UA over AA, or prefer UA over JL at the same price.
I agree with 2 and 3 wholeheartedly. #1 though... JL F isn't worth 5k USD over AA J. It's much better, but 5k USD will be so much better spent in Japan.
Apr 23, 2024, 12:07 pm
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Sorry about that, yes I meant business class and yes we are considering paying cash. The more I look into this it seems F is a thing of the past.
As a side note we do have 500k AS credit card mile points that could be used for AA or JAL. We just aren’t sure of the award availability and lead time.
If we use the reward points can we be bumped at the last second for a paying pax or someone upgrading?
As a side note we do have 500k AS credit card mile points that could be used for AA or JAL. We just aren’t sure of the award availability and lead time.
If we use the reward points can we be bumped at the last second for a paying pax or someone upgrading?
Apr 23, 2024, 12:11 pm
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Sorry about that, yes I meant business class and yes we are considering paying cash. The more I look into this it seems F is a thing of the past.
As a side note we do have 500k AS credit card mile points that could be used for AA or JAL. We just aren’t sure of the award availability and lead time.
As a side note we do have 500k AS credit card mile points that could be used for AA or JAL. We just aren’t sure of the award availability and lead time.
No.
Apr 23, 2024, 2:58 pm
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No rhyme or reason to it with AA. There's no guarantee of availability 331 days out when bookings open. Inventory gets released or tightened any time between then and departure. If you want a pattern, look for JAL space starting 14 days before departure.
Apr 23, 2024, 2:58 pm
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Apr 23, 2024, 6:21 pm
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Sorry about that, yes I meant business class and yes we are considering paying cash. The more I look into this it seems F is a thing of the past.
As a side note we do have 500k AS credit card mile points that could be used for AA or JAL. We just aren’t sure of the award availability and lead time.
If we use the reward points can we be bumped at the last second for a paying pax or someone upgrading?
As a side note we do have 500k AS credit card mile points that could be used for AA or JAL. We just aren’t sure of the award availability and lead time.
If we use the reward points can we be bumped at the last second for a paying pax or someone upgrading?
Apr 23, 2024, 6:52 pm
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JAL business class is 60,000 AA miles to / from -- 120, 000 total.
But snowball's chance in a very hot place you are going to find two seats on November 1 to Tokyo and two seats on November 15 from Tokyo. AA prices are 200,000 each seat, each way with the "dynamic" pricing.
JAL releases 350 days out or 10 days out. You have dates set that don't fall into either set of dates. JAL releases one ticket and you need two tickets.
If you have the wherewithal to pay cash, book JAL business class on the dates and times of your liking.
JAL and AA are the two airlines with direct flights via DFW.
But snowball's chance in a very hot place you are going to find two seats on November 1 to Tokyo and two seats on November 15 from Tokyo. AA prices are 200,000 each seat, each way with the "dynamic" pricing.
JAL releases 350 days out or 10 days out. You have dates set that don't fall into either set of dates. JAL releases one ticket and you need two tickets.
If you have the wherewithal to pay cash, book JAL business class on the dates and times of your liking.
JAL and AA are the two airlines with direct flights via DFW.
Apr 23, 2024, 6:57 pm
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If you fly JAL the sweet spot is using AA miles for a award redemption in F. Unfortunately getting a F seat has to be done far in advance or last minute with miles. You mention cost so I assume you are using cash. JAL F is far superior to UA. The only downside is the JAL cabin is very warm no matter what you tell the flight crew your cabin will be approximately 80 deg F. If you are lucky 75-78 deg F. but not cooler
Apr 23, 2024, 10:53 pm
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JAL business class is 60,000 AA miles to / from -- 120, 000 total.
But snowball's chance in a very hot place you are going to find two seats on November 1 to Tokyo and two seats on November 15 from Tokyo. AA prices are 200,000 each seat, each way with the "dynamic" pricing.
JAL releases 350 days out or 10 days out. You have dates set that don't fall into either set of dates. JAL releases one ticket and you need two tickets.
If you have the wherewithal to pay cash, book JAL business class on the dates and times of your liking.
JAL and AA are the two airlines with direct flights via DFW.
But snowball's chance in a very hot place you are going to find two seats on November 1 to Tokyo and two seats on November 15 from Tokyo. AA prices are 200,000 each seat, each way with the "dynamic" pricing.
JAL releases 350 days out or 10 days out. You have dates set that don't fall into either set of dates. JAL releases one ticket and you need two tickets.
If you have the wherewithal to pay cash, book JAL business class on the dates and times of your liking.
JAL and AA are the two airlines with direct flights via DFW.